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Episode · 1 year ago

016 - What Shows are on the Horizon

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

This week, Andrew talks about the streaming stuff he's looking forward to, including Zack Snyder's Justice League (begrudgingly), Falcon & The Winter Soldier, Loki, Book of Boba Fett, and the Bad Batch.

Dad, don't worry, this is and welcome to the dead Lorian podcast, episode sixteen. This is going to be a little bit of a different episode this week for those of you who are listening and are expecting a very specific format where I spend the beginning of the episode talking about my kids and everything, and it's not that I don't have things to talk about with them, but with streaming stuff going on right now, there is quite a bit of stuff to talk about in terms of upcoming stuff that's got US excited. So I'd wanted to go ahead and just kind of share with you kind of my top things that I'm actually really excited about right now. So I think one that I am excited about in a really weird and kind of Awkward Way, I'm not sure exactly how to express it, because it's Zack Snyder's cut of Justice League, which, to be to hold away honest with you guys, I absolutely hated Justice League as it came out. It was too much DC trying to be marvel, which I think was the side effect of having Joss whedon come in and take over halfway through that, and so it was one of the biggest wastes of my life in terms of time spent watching a movie, because I did not like it at all. Like it just it felt disjointed and weird and just not something that I could in joy. That being said, I also wasn't really a big fan of Zack Snyder's take on the DC universe, which sounds like sacrilege to some people, but that's just me. Like it for me was too dark and I am I'm very much a marvel person. So I am very different in terms of my personality. I think the most fun that I have had with DC movies has been wonder woman. One was really fantastic. The first one obviously not wonder woman eighty four. That was a totally different kettle of fish to the Aquaman, which was...

...one that I actually wound up picking it up on sale, having no idea what I was getting myself into, but going you know what, Jason Momo is a decent actor. Maybe he'll do better on a separate thing. And you know what, I really did enjoy his take on Aquaman, and so that was really good. And then Shazam was one that was just like I went to it because I am a huge Chuck Fan. I Love Zachary Levi as an actor and wait him playing Shazam was like the most perfect casting that I felt they could have done, because he does such a great job of being both the grown man but also kind of acting like a kid in a certain sense, like that's something that he brought really well to chuck and so like seeing him in that situation where it's like he's a boy trapped in a man's body. It was fantastic and I loved every minute of that movie. Sope. Like. It's not to say that I completely dislike all things DC. I just have not been a fan of Snyder's take on things, and I think of man of steel, and Man of steel for me felt really dark and there are people were like, yeah, but it's supposed to be in that case, and all that I just felt like for me, DC was trying to copy what they did with the Christopher Nolan Batman Trilogy and trying to match that tone or even make it even a little bit darker, and for me that just didn't work. I think what came from the Nolan trilogy is that there was hope at the end of everything still, even if everything was Dour, and with Zack Snyder, I didn't feel like I was getting that. All that being said, despite the fact that it is going to be a four hour long cut from a director whose previous work on the franchises I've not been a huge fan of, I really do want to see it, only just so I can see what his ultimate vision for it was, because the disjointedness of the original Justice League cut to me. It bothered me and I know that he had to take the time because of tragedy within his...

...family, and so it was something where absolutely like I understand why he walked away from it and there are certain things that are going to be more important in life, but I think at the very least I'll feel like I've gotten closure that if I hate it, well, I hate it, I might hate it. Maybe something that it doesn't add anything to the experience for me. I know there are people who were, like Snider cuts going to be everything, and to those people great, but it's probably not going to be my cup of tea. But I am still subjecting myself to the full four hours of it because I do want to see what his original vision was and see how that all pans out. So and, like you know, it's just it's an interesting thing to me. I want to see it finished to its completion. And then you know now that we're just winding down on one division, which we'll talk about that in the regular segment. I'm not going to start bringing that in here. But now that we're done with that and we're on kind of the one week off between that and Falcon in the winter, soldier like I'm getting gramped up for Marvel. I went for basically all of last year with very little in terms of marvel content. Mandalorian was really the only Disney content getting me through anything at that point because, like the marvel stuff, there wasn't anything out for it yet. Everything got put on hold and reshuffled and all of that, and so seeing them come out with Wand Division and what division was one of those those like hearing the premise of it, I wasn't sure I'd like it. Getting through it, I super excited for everything else that marvel has coming out and that's an excitement that I really don't think that I've had the chance to feel with him the last year because everything kept getting pushed back and you wouldn't get to see anything coming out of it, and so that's really been my thing for this now that we have gotten through everything and we're starting to see shows that we were promised last...

...year start to come through, that's kind of been the thing that's gotten me stoked is looking ahead. Falcon in the winter soldier looks like it's going to be fantastic. We now my wife's favorite marvel movie was the Captain America Winter Soldier Movie, which was just fantastically well done, and it looks like the tone that they're going to be getting out of that is going to be very similar to that and I think it's going to be a fun dynamic to explore between Bucky and Sam in terms of the Captain America and how that's all going to go. So one of the trailers actually made me almost wonder if they might be doing some kind of touch point on something akin to the fifty states initiative from the comic books, just because there's somebody giving a speech about how we need new heroes and I'm thinking to myself, Hmm, I'm wondering, are we setting up something like the that? Are we setting up the thunderbolts? I mean, obviously Zemo's involved, so that's a distinct possibility. If you know anything about Zemo in the comics, he woinds up being the leader of the thunderbolts, and so that'll be that'll be a very interesting thing to see how all of that plays out. I'm a little bit disappointed that it's going to be a shorter series because it's only going to be six episodes, but at the same time I think it's going to be a very well done from everything that I've seen so far. I'm just excited to see how they deal with this after going through one division and going Oh, okay, so here's where we're at now. Next thing on there would have to be wokey because, oh my goodness, like Tom Huddleston. Is that character, like if you were to ever recast Tom Hideleston? No, you couldn't, you really couldn't, like he lives that character. There's something about him and how he is playfully mischief just embodied like it's just I don't even know how to explain it. And looking at it, wait, just the different things that you're seeing and kind of figuring out with it. You know you've got Owen Wilson in there, so the casting is great and then just looking at it,...

...you know how are they going to address all of this? The time beer, not time bureau. I'm sorry, I'm thinking DC's legends. As tomorrow it is the time bureau, the time variance authority, I think, is the name of the thing, the TVA. Just I'm going to be interested to see how they play into all of this and what all goes on with that also, somebody pointed out in one of the things. You know, we spent all this time talking about how one division was going to end with Mephisto. I'm not going to get into any spoilers at this point, but I will say one of the things that somebody pointed out is in the background of one of the shots in the trailer you very clearly see something that I'm pretty sure it's post to be my Fisto. So maybe that's going to somehow tie into one division. I don't know. We'll see how that all plays out. Bottom line, lowkey like just the fact that we get to see Tom Hittleston in that character even after his death is fantastic and so I'm going to be really curious to see how he kind of causes a difference in the timeline and what all happens with that. So other things that I am excited about. I mean calcin in the winter soldier, who, like that's got to be the top of the list right like that looks like it is just going to be absolutely fantastic as far as everything coming out of it. Like there's a trailer out now, if you haven't seen it, where Bucky and Sam are having this banter back and forth talking about the big three and wizards and Bucky's like wizards aren't real. He said, Dr Strange, he's a sorcerer. A sorcerer is a wizard without a hat, like, oh my gosh, like the playful banter back and forth between the two of them and like playing it off like a couple of teenage boys who were like constantly rivaling each other. Like I think this is going to be a lot of fun. Also, you know, looking ahead a little ways down the line, but the Mandalorian like that. I don't know how season three is going to play out. It sounds like they're not going to start that until after the book of Boba Fett. So book a Boba Fett is actually going to...

...be coming up next. I'll be very curious to see how that turns, just because it seems really interesting for Boba Fett to go back to we're kind of we first knew him in terms of job as palace, which is a sky skype of hum and villainy. Wow, that is a slip up. That is a hive of SCUMM and villainy like you've never seen before. And the thing about it in the comic books is not the comic books, I'm sorry, in the old legends books, you kind of come to the conclusion that Boba Fette was a bounty hunter, but he still had a very strict code of his own, a very strict code of honor. I think it was tails from job as palace, where he's basically presented with Leah and he does nothing because that's that would be a moral kind of thing, and so it was very interesting thinking about that and kind of going in your head. Okay, so how are they going to treat him? Going here like he goes back to be Boba Fett, in whatever method, like. You know, he's been doing this for years and he's got his armor back. What's his purpose? What is he doing after doing this? Is He's settling old scores with, you know, different villains that he worked for over the years. Like it's just going to be very interesting to see what they do with that. Like, honestly, after seeing Robert Rodriguez do what he did with him in the episode of the Mandalorian where he first shows up, like, I mean that right there in and of itself was a good enough Promo Tra or to make me go yes, I will definitely tune in for that. Give me as much Boba Fette as you can manage, Robert Rodriguez. I will take anything you can give me, and also the fact that you've got men when involved as well. That also is going to be good. The bad batch, that is another thing coming on streaming. You know, we just finished the clone wars with my son and we've actually started the Mandalorian now, and so that's something that we're pretty excited to be going through with him and he's enjoying it. But the bad batch was probably my favorite arc at...

...the beginning of the last season of the clone wars, and granted, I say at the beginning of it, like just there's three episode arcs in there. That too, episode Arcs that I felt like were the most impactful were the bad batch one and the one that ended the season the sisters in the middle. Like it was cool because you got to see what she was doing outside of the Jedi order, but at the same time it didn't feel totally necessary to everything that was going on. Like I don't know, like I've kind of feel like you could have almost given Ahsoka her own series for that period and kind of adapted what was in the Asoka Book. Maybe do some more of that. But it was just a very interesting like thing, because you've got clones that are basically bread to be perfect and like copies of their original but then you had the bad batch, which was very specifically a group that had different heightened abilities that were different from their host. So that was something that I really am looking forward to, as well as seeing how they handle that particular thing. And I think it's going to be cool because you get to see, okay, what's going on with the clones after the end of the clone wars, like you've now got all of these clones that are basically being decommissioned. How are they being decommissioned? Or they just being put into storm trooper armor and they're now the imperial storm troopers? Like obviously that's not always how it goes because you've got the issue of nobody having accents like the clone troopers by the time you get to you know, a new hope, but also the clone troopers were bred to be aging at a rapid pace. So it'll be interesting to see what happens there. And really, honestly, I feel like the should have gotten more airtime than they did, like they got their little story arc there at the beginning, but I feel like it would have been something where you could have brought the bad batch in sooner and given them more time. So being able to go and kind of do that, I think is going to be a lot of fun. I also...

...have been hearing about Kenobi is now starting to kind of get ready to ramp up, and I think that's going to be a lot of fun just to see how that plays out, because the more that I hear about it, you know you've got hiden christiensen coming back as Darth vader. What does that mean? Like was there duels taking place after return of the Jedi or not? After turn of the Jedi, I'm sorry, after revenge of the Sith like, because we've always lived with the assumption that Obi Wan's just been chilling out like a hermit the entire time since he ended her ended the clone wars, and drop luke off at his uncle's, like, you know, he's just chilling out there in the sand. Obviously they're going to have to do some storytelling there to kind of explain what's going on, how we're going to wind up with Darth vader and him getting into a rematch, like there's got to be something going on here. I don't know what it's going to be, but even McGregor has OBI Wan. KENOBE was probably one of my favorite things out of the prequels, and so that's one of those things. Giving him the chance to open up the characters tool box like a little bit more as a wiser old mayor older man, I think is going to be a lot of fun. So those are the things that I am excited for in streaming in terms of things that are coming up sometime either in the future or in the very distant future. Like I think Obi Wan's not supposed to be until two thousand and twenty two, two thousand and twenty three, I don't remember like, but it sounds like they're getting ready for that. So maybe it was two thousand and twenty two. But any case, that is kind of the things that I am excited about. Really excited to talk about Wand Division next, but we're going to go ahead and go to our first break. If you've not heard, if you want to support the podcast, we do have the buy me a coffeecom slash the Dad Dlorian, where you can go you can buy me a coffee on there and there's a mounse you can donate there. If you want to join our membership program the Dad delrian covert, that is on there as well for an annual fee. You can go...

...ahead and join up. Actuley. There's an annual option. I think there's also a monthly option, and so it's something where you can join up. We are going to be having our first group get together to discuss nerdy things coming up later this month, and so that is something that I am super excited for. And already you've got a founding member in Dave Cheryl, my buddy over there at the freckled yon would shop. So hope you are doing well this week. You guys, have a great day. Why am I closing this out? I am just going to break you, guys. I it's late right now. I'm recording this a little bit later than I would day job has been a little hectic, but I'm definitely getting this done. So yeah, any case, we are going to our first break. Will be right back and we are back. So this week on what we watched, I'm going to start off with the Mandalorian because that is something that we have been watching with Alton and kind of enjoying getting the time on there. This week was the first time that I had to really be like quick about something and it was on the episode with the prison break where they go in and you've got bill Burr's character and I have to tell you, guys, wait, we didn't go through this series for the first season because obviously the show didn't exist at that point. I picked up this show during the second season and so we got to discuss a lot of the episodes for second season, but I've not had the chance to really talk about any of the episodes from the first season, and so it was very interesting to me because that particular episode, the one where they're breaking out Quinn from the Republic prison ship, great guest spot by Matt Lanter as the officer on the prison ship that gets knifed but regardless, that episode prior to season two felt like it was...

...really kind of a pointless filler episode because realistically it didn't do anything to really advance the plot of Mando being on the run with Baby Yoda and ultimately getting to the confrontation with Mouf Gideon at the end of the season. So it was very interesting going back and rewatching it because you realized in doing that how many things got set up by that episode because, when you think about it, you have zero, the droid that almost blasts baby Yoda but instead mando blasts him, who winds up being the translator for the Frog Lady during episode, was it three or episode two? I think it was episode two of the second season, where she can't communicate with him because he doesn't speak it, and so she rewires the droids voice modulator so that she can communicate. You have trapper Wolf, the pilot played by Dave Feloney, who is involved in the bombing run on the space station and then winds up being the one to go after Mando on the Ice Planet in the same episode as zero. Then you have bill Burr's character of Mayfeld, who winds up starting off in this episode and he's former imperial sharpshooter turned mercenary. He was the one reason that I had to jump on the mute button because I knew there was a word coming up in a sequence where he was being accused of being a stormtrooper and you very vehemently denied it. I was very quick to mute a certain word on there and I did a fantastic job. I did it without the kid even noticing that I did it, so that was that was my fun thing with that was you realized in watching that episode one that it was setting up the season to sick hi and where you wind up having to bring him...

...in in order to be able to find out where a baby Youta went. And what was fascinating to me is you realize, going back and watching it, how much character growth he'd experienced and also that he, despite the fact that he was really a tool in the first season, he kind of grew a heart. By the second season he was somebody who at that point was broken. He was in a republic prison camp at that point, sports labor, all of that stuff, and he winds up coming back with Mando to go and get the stuff to get baby y Outa back and it was fascinating because one the effect of the little green guy has on him, like he basically acts like a jerk around him. He's like hey, you know, pretends to drop him and all that, and then he finds out that he's in trouble. He's like a little green dude, like what's going on? And then, on top of that, the whole sequence where they're are sitting in the ship and he's saying, you know, take your mask off, man, don't get you got to give us something, and he, Mando, doesn't do it. You realize the emotional impact that that must have had because when he comes back in the other season and he sees Mando Unmasked, like he understands how big of a deal that was. And so it still felt like a filler episode and that it didn't advance that season's plot. But at the same time I think it was something where it feels like the whole Chekhov's gun analogy fits a little bit with this. It's just they're extending it out. So I don't feel like we're getting as many drops like that from Disney, where they're putting something in there that's going to be a complete red herring, like well, half of the stuff in Wand Division, although we're going to talk about that in a minute, but it's very interesting to kind of see how all of that played out. The other thing that was big...

...this week, aside from going back and rewatching some of the clone wars episodes, because all wanted to watch some clone wars and we obliged and Austin is actually kind of enjoying them now. Also, speaking of Austin, the baby Yoda. Anytime literally he is on the screen, he is enthralled and he thinks it is the greatest thing ever, and so that has been kind of my new favorite thing, is any time he sees him, he's like starts babbling. It's great. But the other thing that we've been watching obviously one division, and specifically that one division finale, because it was it was a good ending. I was appreciative of everything that went into it. It was not as fulfilling as I was hoping it would be and I think part of that, coming to find out, is because they didn't actually finish the season how they'd planned to finish the season. So let's break that all down. So, like, there were a lot of fan theories. It were set up by things that we're going on and then basically none of it paid off and everybody's like Oh, like I think there was a collective sigh of disappointment when doctor strange didn't show up. Well, it turns out one of the I think it was the directors, that was involved indicated that there was a lot of stuff that they wound up having to cut because of covid changing all of their shooting schedules and everything. So it sounds like Dr Strange might have been somebody that they'd planned to bring in but at the end they weren't able to do it. Then, on top of that, with the her endpiece, it sounds like the he doctor strange might have been might still be pulling that piece in for the beginning of his movie, as opposed to being at the end of Wand Division. So it'll be interesting to see how that all plays out. The other thing, can we talk about Ralph Aka? Pietro Aka, Not Patro Aka? Oh my gosh, what the heck is going...

...on here? So, long story short, I just got done praising Star Wars for the CHECKOV's gun and not putting something in without it has serving a purpose later on. So I obviously pietro was a plant casting and even peters as quicksilver when he was the wrong version of quicksilver, and then getting to the end in finding out this is not a multiverse situation. This is some random dude that Agatha basically used as pietrow to pull one over on Wanda, like and then his name is boner, Ralph boner. Oh my gosh, I don't even know what to say to that. It was one of those things where I'm like, well done for getting everybody to talk about it, and that was really what it did, is it generated a lot of talk because it's like, wait, Evan Peters is playing quicksilver but he was the wrong quicksilver. Oh my gosh, multiverse and we know eventually we're going to get there, but that was not here. Going back to stuff that was cut, another thing that I had heard about is apparently they'd originally had a scene that was going to be the kids and the kids and Darcy and Ralph apparently stealing the dark hold from Agatha. So we never get to see how Wanda winds up with the dark hold, but stealing that and by the way, that big reveal as the dark hold, like that was one of those things. They dropped it in the earlier episode where she walks past it in the basement and I go that looked a lot like the dark hold from agents of shield. And apparently it's not the first time we've used the dark hold, because it was apparently also used in runaways, which I've not seen that series, but apparently they brought it in for the third season on there.

And so one question that comes to my mind after this is is this all the same version of the dark hold, or are there like multiple copies out there? Like is there like a witch? I don't know, like does Dr Strange have like a Barnes and noble or something like? Are there publishers out there that regularly print this stuff? Like how are there? Is this just the same book that just keeps getting taken away by bad guys, or like, are there multiple copies out there and every time one of them gets out, somebody else has another copy elsewhere? Like I don't know. That's one of those questions that I wonder about because agents a shield has addressed the dark hold, and runaways to address the dark hold and now want divisions addressing the dark hold, and it looks like we're probably going to be seeing more of that dark hold come doctor strange to because, big spoiler alert, when you get to the end of the end credits scenes in wand division, you find Wanda doing the whole Steven strange doing two things, that once thing where she is having a Nice Cup of tea out on a serene wake while also being her scarlet witch self, reading the dark hold and hearing the voices of her children, who, by the way, to appeared at the end of the show when she basically had to collapse the hecks to save everybody except for her family. So the whole thing with vision versus white vision, I really rather enjoyed that more than I thought I would. The thing that I found amusing about it, though, is you had the scene where they're flying around and white vision is trying to rip the mindstone from regular visions head and he just changes his density and basically lets him push his hand all the way through his forehead and then traps his wrist. there. Guys, why didn't he do that to than Os like? I mean, part of it, I...

...think, is the fact that he was probably just recovering from the fact that he'd been killed and then brought back to life, but at the same time, like it was just one of the things that it happened. And then it was such a quick moment. And then I'm like, wait, did he just change his density so they pushed through and didn't have a hold of the stone? And wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. So you're telling me he could have avoided all of this if he had just let Thanos sink his hand through his face? Okay, I don't know, maybe there's some differences when you're wielding an adfitity gauntlet. Regardless, I guess. Also, he could have posted him in time, as I'm thinking this out loud, regardless, that would just made me laugh. But then the whole the ship of this theseus, and the whole problem of which one of them was the true ship, and they were both, but they were neither the ship. That was a really interesting kind of discussion there, and that was, of course, the thing that beats vision is actually thinking things through. Wait, it was a very different way to resolve a conflict in a superhero movie, but I was completely on board with it and I feel like Paul Betany played that well, even if I think that he's a complete jerk for all of the teasing about getting to do some intense scenes with his actor that he's always wanted to work with, and then, oh, yeah, no, I was just talking about myself. Guys, Paul, Paul, Paul, Paul, Paul, Paul, I just yeah, I don't even know. So anyway, bottom line, didn't love it as much as I thought I would. I did enjoy the ending of it and I am looking forward to seeing how it plays into doctor strange too. So we're going to take our last break and then, once we are done with that, we are going to come to our pod decks question of the week. All right, we are back and we're on our POD...

...decks question of the week. This week's one. I'm doing it a little to tongue in cheek, but the question is this her. which living person do you most despise? You guys, I do my best not to despise anybody. I don't want to speak ill of anybody, but let's be completely honest. Whatever the name of the jerk is who took the Song Baby Shark, recorded a techno version of it and then started pumping it on toys everywhere and putting it on our televisions with really cheesy animations and everything like that. That person is a special breed of jerk and I don't want anything to do with them. And like, I laugh because like it, just like I I'm assuming they're still alive. If they're dead. I don't want to speak ill of the dead, but I still just who man. Yeah, so we've got a baby shark book. One of our family members was kind enough to give us a singing baby shark that sang the annoying song that may or may not have mysteriously disappeared when my child wasn't looking for it, because it was super annoying and he's not asked about it in at least two years now. So yeah, I'm not saying I made it vanish, but I may have made it vanish. So any case, what is yours on that? I do want to talk about questions that we'd had previously. So I had a response from my friend Dave, who is one of the founding members of the DAD do Lorian covert, and he in talking about the question about what thing would you change? Trying to find his answer, of course, or...

...was it he said I don't think I would take back anything. I strongly believe that everything happens for a reason. It makes you a stronger person. You learned from the mistakes and you can use that to improve and I think that is a really great takeaway from it. Is I think. You know, there are a lot of us who can go through that and go, you know, I don't think I change anything, because it adds to where I am at now. I think there are people who look back up their past and go, I really wish I could have that one back. I really wish I could have that one back, you know, just because there are different things that you wish you would have done differently, but at the same time, would you be the same person if you had done them differently? So it's a great answer to that question and I do appreciate him taking the time to answer it. So all right, you guys. We are going to call this one an episode. Hope you have a great week, whatever you're doing, take care out there and remember parenting is a complicated profession. Will See you away.

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